The Matrix Movies Could Be More Real Than You Think
August 13, 2008 at 4:18 am | In Spirituality, news and politics, religion | No CommentsTags: Alain, Aspect, Einstein, Elia, EliaS, elijah, Hologram, Holographic, Michael, Paris, Science, Spirituality, Susan, Talbot, Universe, University, Weimer
The Matrix Movies Could Be More Real Than You Think
Did you ever consider that reality my not be all that real? According to Michael Talbot author of The Holographic Universe reality isn’t real it’s all a hologram.
“Even visions and experiences involving “non-ordinary” reality become explainable under the holographic paradigm. In a holographic universe there are no limits to the extent to which we can alter the fabric of reality.”
– Michael Talbot, author of The Holographic Universe
In 1982 at the University of Paris, a research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. Aspect and the team he was working with found out that subatomic particles such as electrons can instantly communicate with each other under certain circumstances, and it doesn’t matter how far apart they are.
What makes this finding so important is that it totally blows Einstein’s theory that nothing can travel past the speed of light right out of the water. Because of this some physicists have come of with elaborate ideas to try to explain Aspects findings.
For example, University of London physicist David Bohm believes Aspect’s findings suggest that objective reality may not exist, that despite that it seems solid the universe is at heart a gigantic and splendidly detailed hologram.
To anyone who has studied Kabballah, this theory should make perfect sense. The way I understand it, anyway, we all really only exist as an idea in the mind of God.
If you would like to read more about this click here:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/science_spirituality_hologram
Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why
February 3, 2008 at 11:23 pm | In religion | 10 CommentsTags: Behind, Bible, Changed, jesus, Misquoting, Story, Who
Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why
Category: Religion and PhilosophyELIA’S NOTES:
Dear friends,
I found these reviews of a book that just came out recently and found them to be very intrigueing. The reason I find them so intrigueing is because of a friend I made recently.
My friend is a Chasidic Jew from Isreal. He has been telling me about the changes that have been made in the Christian version of the Old Testament. And some factual discrepencies in the New Testament. How some things were changed during translation and some things had been changed with some other motive.
This isn’t the first time I have run upon such information. I feel that all knowledge is good knowledge, and also knowledge is power. Armed with this knowledge - I now have better understanding and also some answers to some questions.
Concider that the author of this book may have unearthed something real…..does that mean that we should give up our faith? Does it make belief in God null and void? Absolutely not.
The Bible is still the best guide we have to show us how to live a life pleasing to God. So, what’s the answer?
The answer is to do what every patriarch did - learn from God Himself. Meditate in prayer, learn to hear His voice and still read those very old stories written down in that book. They are a good guide for living a life of LOVE.
Live Love - but stay informed.
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REVIEW 1
Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why
by Bart D. Ehrman
The Bible Delusion
A Review by Doug Brown
.. REVIEW TEXT HERE –>Those who call the King James Version of the Bible the unerring word of God have a slight problem. The New Testament of the KJV (as the King James Version is usually referred) was translated into English from a version of the Greek New Testament that had been collected from twelfth-century copies by Erasmus. Where Erasmus couldn’t find Greek manuscripts, he translated to Greek from the Latin Vulgate (which itself had been translated from Greek back in the fourth century). Here the problem splits into two problems. First, Jesus spoke Aramaic — his actual words, never recorded, were only rendered in Greek in the original gospels. Thus, the KJV consists of Jesus’ words twice refracted through the prism of translation. Second, Erasmus’s Greek New Testament was based on handwritten copies of copies of copies of copies, etc., going back over a millennium, and today is considered one of the poorer Greek New Testaments. It is this second problem that Ehrman spends most time on in Misquoting Jesus, a fascinating account of New Testament textual criticism.
Many people have a vague notion that all the original biblical texts are preserved in vaults somewhere, and translators work from those original texts. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case. The earliest surviving versions of the gospels are handwritten copies dating from centuries after the original texts were written. Also, we don’t just have a single version of each gospel; we have many versions, and even more fragments. The trouble is, none of the versions agree with each other. As Ehrman puts it, there are more points of disagreement between manuscripts than there are words in the Gospels. So which one is right? How can one tell what the original authors intended?
One way is to try and establish which manuscript is the earliest, and call it closest to the author’s intent. However, it may not be. Ehrman describes how the earliest copies of Christian texts were done by everyday folks, many of whom were barely literate; it is thus among the earliest copies that the greatest disagreements are found. In later times, professional scribes did most of the copying, resulting in fewer inter-copy disagreements. Also, we may have a document from the fourth century and one from the eighth; but the latter might have been copied from a second-century document, making it closer to the original. In general, though, if most early manuscripts have a given wording and later versions have another, scholars assume the early version is correct.
Another method of deciding which of two text versions is closer to the original is geographic comparison. If all the manuscripts from Alexandria have one version of text, but copies from everywhere else have another version, the Alexandria version is probably incorrect. Also, Ehrman controversially argues that if we have two passages, one with an easier interpretation and another with a harder, the latter is more likely correct. Scribes would often clean up passages that were hard to interpret, or that seemed to make Jesus hard to understand.
Then there is the issue of later scribes just plain adding in things that weren’t there before. These additions often came from the verbal tradition of the early church, or to bring a given gospel in line with other gospels. One of the biggest apparent additions to the gospels is the last twelve verses of Mark (16:9-20). They are not present in early versions of the gospel, and include the famous passage that is the primary basis for Pentecostal and snake-handling churches, as well as for many a fly-by-night faith healer:
And these are the signs that will accompany those who believe: they will cast out demons in my name; they will speak in new tongues; and they will take up snakes in their hands; and if they drink any poison it will not harm them; they will place their hands upon the sick and heal them.
In addition to not being present in earlier versions, Ehrman states the writing style of these verses are different from the rest of Mark, and contain vocabulary not present in the rest of the gospel. Some later scribe possibly felt that the gospel ended too abruptly and added a more Messianic coda. And in doing so, condemned many an Appalachian pit viper to a life of abuse at the hands of people who think Jesus said something he likely didn’t.
Alteration of texts by copyists was such a problem that many ancient scribes and authors would include warnings similar to today’s anti-copying legal disclaimers. One figure in Misquoting Jesus is a page of a fourth-century manuscript on which a medieval scribe has scrawled a complaint in the margins about an earlier scribe altering the text: “Fool and knave, leave the old reading, don’t change it.” The book of Revelation contains one of the first copyright warnings, which Ehrman quotes: “I testify to everyone who hears to the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book; and if anyone removes any of the words of the book of this prophecy, God will remove his share from the tree of life….” The wording may have changed over the centuries, but the sentiment hasn’t.
In many respects, the Bible was the world’s first Wikipedia article. So many hands have altered and edited the now lost originals that we will never know for sure what those originals said. I find it amusing that the Christian Right in America spends its energy attacking evolution, arguing that teaching evolution is teaching atheism. For Ehrman, learning about the Bible is what caused his belief to change. He still believes in God, but no longer believes the Bible is an inerrant source of the Word. It would be interesting to know how many people became less religiously devout after learning science versus learning about Bible and church history. Instead of convincing believers not to read Dawkins and Darwin, the biblical literalists might better spend their energy keeping folks away from Ehrman (in fact, backlash books attacking Ehrman — often personally — and defending Biblical infallibility are already appearing). Ehrman isn’t an atheist assaulting belief; he is just a scholarly believer saying he feels the evidence is clear that the gospels were written by men with personal agendas, and both accidentally and intentionally altered over the centuries by other men with agendas of their own. Then, from all the texts that existed, some other men with agendas selected the canon and deemed the other texts apocrypha. The main thrust of what Jesus said and did is undoubtedly in there, but that’s all we can be sure of. For believer or atheist, I recommend Misquoting Jesus to anyone with an interest in where this ancient anthology that has helped shape our culture came from.
REVIEW 2
Who changed the Bible and why? Bart Ehrman’s startling answers
October 22nd, 2006 by Erich Vieth
The 2005 bestseller, Misquoting Jesus, was not written by a raving atheist. Rather, it was written by a fellow who had a born-again experience in high school, then went on to attend the ultraconservative Moody Bible Institute in Chicago. Bart Ehrman didn’t stop there, however. He wanted to become an evangelical voice with credentials that would enable him to teach in secular settings. It was for this reason that he continued his education at Wheaton and, eventually, Princeton, picking up the ability to read the New Testament in its original Greek in the process.
As a result of his disciplined study, Ehrman increasingly questioned the fundamentalist approach that the “Bible is the inerrant Word of God. It contains no mistakes.” Through his studies, Ehrman determined that the Bible was not free of mistakes:
We have only error ridden copies, and the vast majority of these are centuries removed from the originals and different from them, evidently, in thousands of ways.
(Page 7). At Princeton, Ehrman learned that mistakes had been made in the copying of the New Testament over the centuries. Upon realizing this, “the floodgates opened.” In Mark 4, for example, Jesus allegedly stated that the mustard seed is “the smallest of all seeds on the earth.” Ehrman knew that this simply was not true. The more he studied the early manuscripts, the more he realized that the Bible was full of contradictions. For instance, Mark writes that Jesus was crucified the day after the Passover meal (Mark 14:12; 15:25) while John says Jesus died the day before the Passover meal (John 19:14).
Ehrman often heard that the words of the Bible were inspired. Obviously, the Bible was not originally written in English. Perhaps, suggests Ehrman, the full meaning and nuance of the New Testament could only be grasped when it was read in its original Greek (and the Old Testament could be fully appreciated only when studied in its original Hebrew) (page 6).
Because of these language barriers and the undeniable mistakes and contradictions, Ehrman realized that the Bible could not be the “fully inspired, inerrant Word of God.” Instead, it appeared to him to be a “very human book.” Human authors had originally written the text at different times and in different places to address different needs. Certainly, the Bible does not provide an an “errant guide as to how we should live. This is the shift in my own thinking that I ended up making, and to which I am now fully committed.”
How pervasive is the belief that the Bible is inerrant, that every word of the Bible is precise and true?
Occasionally I see a bumper sticker that reads: “God said it, I believe it, and that settles it.” My response is always, what if God didn’t say it? What if the book you take as giving you God’s words instead contains human words. What if the Bible doesn’t give a foolproof answer to the questions of the modern age-abortion, women’s rights, gay rights, religious and supremacy, western style democracy and the like? What if we have to figure out how to live and what to believe on our own, without setting up the Bible as a false idol–or an oracle that gives us a direct line of communication with the Almighty.
(Page 14). Ehrman continues to appreciate the Bible as an important collection of writings, but urges that it needs to be read and understood in the context of textual criticism, “a compelling and intriguing field of study of real importance not just to scholars but to everyone with an interest in the Bible.” Ehrman finds it striking that most readers of the Bible know almost nothing about textual criticism. He comments that this is not surprising, in that very few books have been written about textual criticism for a lay audience (namely, “those who know nothing about it, who don’t have the Greek and other languages necessary for the in-depth study of it who do not realize there is even any “problem” with the text).
Misquoting Jesus provides much background into how the Bible became the Bible. It happened through numerous human decisions over the centuries. For instance, the first time any Christian of record listed the 27 books of the New Testament as the books of the New Testament was 300 years after the books have been written (page 36). And those works have been radically altered over the years at the hands of the scribes “who were not only conserving scripture but also changing it.” Ehrman points out that most of the hundreds of thousands of textual changes found among the manuscripts were “completely insignificant, immaterial, of no real importance.” In short, they were innocent mistakes involving misspelling or inadvertence.
On the other hand, the very meaning of the text changed in some instances. Some Bible scholars have even concluded that it makes no sense to talk about the “original” text of the Bible. (Page 210). As a result of studying surviving Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, Ehrman concluded that we simply don’t have the original words constituting the New Testament.
Not only do we not have the originals, we don’t have the first copies of the originals. We don’t even have copies of the copies of the originals, or copies of the copies of the copies of the originals. What we have are copies made later-much later. In most instances, they are copies made many centuries later. And these copies all differ from one another, and many thousands of places . . . Possibly it is easiest to put it in comparative terms: there are more differences among our manuscripts and there are words in the New Testament.
In Misquoting Jesus Bart Ehrman spells out the ways in which several critical passages of the New Testament were changed or concocted. They are startling examples:
A.) Everyone knows the story about Jesus and the woman about to be stoned by the mob. This account is only found in John 7:53-8:12. The mob asked Jesus whether they should stone the woman (the punishment required by the Old Testament) or show her mercy. Jesus doesn’t fall for this trap. Jesus allegedly states “Let the one who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her.” The crowd dissipates out of shame. Ehrman states that this brilliant story was not originally in the Gospel of John or in any of the Gospels. “It was added by later scribes.” The story is not found in “our oldest and best manuscripts of the Gospel of John. Nor does its writing style comport with the rest of John. Most serious textual critics state that this story should not be considered part of the Bible (page 65).
B) after Jesus died, Mary Magdalene and two other women came back to the tomb to anoint the body of Jesus, according to Mark 16:1-2). They were met by a man in a white robe who told them that Jesus had been raised and was no longer there. The women fled and said nothing more to anyone out of fear (16:4-8). Everyone knows the rest of Mark’s Gospel, of course. The problem with the remainder of the story is that none of it was originally in the Gospel of Mark. It was added by a later scribe. Those additions include all of the following:
Jesus himself appeared to Mary Magdalene. She told the eleven apostles (minus Judas) about this vision, but they did not believe her. Jesus then appeared to the apostles, chastising them for failing to believe. He tells them that those who believe will be saved and those who don’t will be condemned. Then follows a critically important passage of the Bible.
And these are the signs that will accompany those who believe: they will cast out demons in my name; they will speak in new tongues; and they will take up snakes in their hands; and if they drink any poison, it will not harm them; they will place their hands upon the sick and heal them.
Jesus is then allegedly taken up into heaven and sits at the right hand of God, while the disciples go forth into the world to proclaim the Gospel in miraculous fashion.
Without the above passages (which, again, were not written by Mark) the Pentecostals lose their justification for speaking in “tongues.” And the Appalachian snake handlers have no basis for their dangerous practices.
C) John 5:7-8 is the only passage in the entire Bible “that explicitly delineates the doctrine of the Trinity (that there are three persons and God but that all three constitute a single God):
There are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Spirit and these three are one; and there are three that bear witness on earth, the spirit, the water, and the blood, and these three are one.
Ehrman cites strong evidence that this Trinity passage was entirely concocted and foisted upon Erasmus by outraged theologians who needed support for their prized theological doctrine (page 81).
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Ehrman reveals numerous other difficulties with the popular assumption that the Bible was perfectly handed down from its original written expression.
Many believers rely fervently on the King James version of the Bible, for instance. They sometimes even say “If the King James was good enough for St. Paul, it’s good enough for me.” Ehrman points out many problems with the King James version, warning that “we need to face up to the facts.”
The King James was not given by God but was a translation by a group of scholars in the early 17th century who based their rendition on a faulty Greek text.
(Page 209).
So what should we make of the Bible? Ehrman argues that the attacks of the New Testament are not simply collections of obvious, self-interpreting words. It’s the same problem we have with other important documents, such as the United States Constitution:
Texts do not simply reveal their own meanings to honest inquirers. Texts are interpreted and they are interpreted (just as they were written) by living, breathing human beings, who can make sense of texts only by explaining them in light of other other knowledge, explicating their meaning, putting the words of the text “in other words.”
(Page 217) The scribes changed the original words of the New Testament by putting them in other words.
In my experience, many people who cherry pick excerpts from the Bible as the proper way to determine what is moral are in utter denial that we don’t have accurate copies of the original writings. Most of them refuse to acknowledge that current popular versions of the Bible contain numerous discrepancies, even compared to the earliest manuscripts we do have. This is on top of the fact that their are hundreds of patent contradictions in the English version of the Bible. To most believers, none of this matters. Stay the course! In fact, in my experience most believers rarely read what the consider to be God’s own inspired word.
Ehrman’s book points out numerous troublesome issues that demand attention even assuming that the original writers of the Bible accurately reported the events described in their original writings (whatever those writings were). The elephant in the room, however, is that none of the authors of the Gospels ever claimed to witness any of the events they were reporting. Further, the extraodinary nature of Biblical claims demands extraordinary proof that ancient self-contradictory writings are simply incapable of providing, except to those of us who believe that the Bible is completely true “because it says so in the Bible.”
For all of those people who continue to go around clentching and thumping those Bibles they bought at Wal-Mart, and for all the rest of us who want to get the story straight, Ehrman’s Misquoting Jesus should be required reading.
They want to divide the land…..
February 3, 2008 at 12:16 am | In news and politics, religion | 2 CommentsTags: divide, isreal, jerusalem, land, solution, state, two
They want to divide the land…..
Category: News and Politics
This blog will most likely bring some questions about what I believe - so let me go ahead and clear these things up ahead of time. First off - I am not a Zionist. I do not hold to the beliefs that Zionists hold to.Having said that there is a however - I do believe in Bible prophecy and I believe that what is going on right now is a part of that prophecy.
Another thing I believe is that if enough people act - we can change things - even put off prophecy for a future time so that we “push it forward” so to speak.
Now, in case you don’t know - there have been meetings going on in which there has been a discussion about dividing the state of Isreal. Now, to me this sounds a lot like this…..
Joel 3:1-2 (Amplified Bible)1. FOR BEHOLD, in those days and at that time when I shall reverse the captivity and restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, 2. I will gather all nations and will bring them down into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, and there will I deal with and execute judgment upon them for [their treatment of] My people and of My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations and [because] they have divided My land.It is my opinion that this dividing of the land is something that should not be done.
Now I have said all that to get to this…..
I received this email today and I want to pass it on. If you also believe that dividing the land of Isreal is wrong - say so to someone that counts. Email addresses are provided at the bottom of this post.
Live Love - but stay informed.
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ATTN ENGLISH SPEAKERS: THE “JEWISH HEART” EMAIL CAMPAIGN BEGINS
Negotiations on how to set up a Palestinian terror state just a bike-ride away from Jerusalem, Tel-Aviv and Israel’s sole international airport are ongoing as we speak (the goal of Annapolis is to finish these this year — 2008). The mother of this idea is said to be the Israeli government (although the Israeli government never agreed to set up a Palestinian state given that terror is still ongoing) - but the father is George Bush.
Therefore, American Jewish organizations must speak up against the two-state solution. So far, even the Orthodox have not bothered to do so. All English speakers should make the following Jewish Heart email campaign a top priority.
The Jewish Heart email campaign is the brainchild of FaigeRayzel, a well known American Hareidi activist on behalf of Eretz Yisrael. It is embarrassing to report that up until now, this outspoken woman activist has been working all alone to obtain statements from the Orthodox Jewish establishment organizations on behalf of Judea and Samaria. For example, here is her shortened report on recent conversations with 2 prominent Hareidi-American rabbis:
“I attended the AJOP Convention in Baltimore. I was privileged to speak with R’ Kamenetsky the Rosh Yeshiva of Philadelphia and R’ Feldman the Rosh Yeshiva of Ner Yisroel. I caught the Roshei Yeshivoth in the hallways, surrounded by many. I approached R’ Kamenetsky and asked “What is the position of the Rabbonim regarding the 2-state solution, the abandonment of Yesha.” He smiled but didn’t respond. I spoke about a Mishneh which discusses how daylight is determined (for purposes of sacrifices) in which Hebron is a key player. I said: “Doesn’t this show that in order to start the Avoda in Yerushalayim you need Hebron?” Rav Kamenetsky smiled as did all those surrounding him. I then waited until others had finished talking with Rav Feldman and asked him also: “What about Yesha?”. Then, in a Question and Answer session, I passed the question “What is the Moetzes Gedolei Hatorah position regarding territorial concessions in Yesha?” From Rav Kamenetsky’s answer it seemed he was sympathizing. On his way out, once again I managed to get a few words with Rav Kamenetsky. I mentioned what Rav Feldman had said and asked Rav Kamenetsky to please relay certain information to Rav Feldman. Rav Kamenetsky agreed.”
FaigeRayzel has asked everybody to please email the major American Orthodox Jewish organizations as follows (even better — write your own email):
Distinguished Leaders of Young Israel, OU, and Aguda USA: Aren’t Agudath Yisroel of America, the National Council of Young Israel and the Orthodox Union (OU) against a Palestinian “Homeland” and the destruction of the Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria? THEN, PLEASE SAY SO! Make a Public Statement so that President Bush will hear you. Don’t just say so quietly to yourselves. He thinks you support his Roadmap! Your constituents have faith in you to represent them, to be their voice. As a United Torah Voice tell President Bush that the Roadmap (the Two State Solution) is contrary to Torah. In the Torah, the Land of Israel is Promised to the Nation of Israel exclusively and is not to be shared with Palestinians or any other Nation.
Alternatively or in addition, point out: It is perfectly obvious that a new terror state – just a bike-ride away from Jerusalem, Tel-Aviv and Israel’s sole international airport — threatens the existence of the ONLY Jewish state in the world; whereas there are over 20 Arab states in the world already. Also, as pointed out recently by Nobel Prize laureate Prof. Yisrael Aumann, forceable deportation of tens of thousands of people (including Jews) is a crime against humanity. In many cases, the Jews who are at rish to undergo this suffering are first-degree relatives of your own members; it is unthinkable for you to fail to prevent their suffering: Please delay no further in speaking out on their - and Israel’s - behalf.
The email addresses of the Public Affairs Departments at Aguda USA, Young Israel and OU are:
plerner@youngisrael.org; dzwiebel@agudathisrael.org; shafran@agudathisrael.org; ipa@oa.org;
Please notify faigeRayzel@aol.com and mattot.arim@gmail.com immediately if you get a substantive response.
You can also call:
Rabbi Chaim Dovid Zwiebel and Rabbi Avi Shafran, Public Affairs Deptl, Agudath Yisroel USA: 212-797-9000
Rabbi Pesach Lerner, Young Israel: 212-929-1525
Rabbi Tzvi Hersh Weinreb, OU: 212-563-4000
Thank you!!
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